[Moderator's note: I think it's clear we've moved away from the topic of feeding when we start getting posts like the one below which are closer to a personal attack than a discussion about feeding. It's also clear the postings have slowed down. If anyone has polite last words, please post them tomorrow or hold them until next time the topic is allowed. Tommorrow's FML will be the end of the raw food debates for a while. BIG] Kim wrote... >I've never taken in a child's pet under the guise of adoption >then served it to my ferrets I noticed that you were very careful to say "under the guise of adoption". So I will re-phrase the question..... Do you take pets that have been advertised for free or for a nominal fee to feed to your ferrets? Kim wrote..... >Does Nancy owe an apology? Apologies aren't banked - neither owed, >nor paid; apologies are freely offered." I disagree completely....apologies are definitely owed when someone falsely accuses someone of doing something or when someone hurts someone intentionally or unintentionally, when someone ruins something they borrowed, etc, etc, etc....it is common courtesy. I don't think the person that hurt you years ago ever apologized to you. Sad...I think the little girl in you needs an apology from someone in your past. Several people have written to me privately...people who don't want to post publically out of fear of getting blasted by you. You want us to accept your way of feeding and try badgering us into doing so quite regularly on this list without any proof that it makes a damn bit of difference. You boast about gorgeous fur but all of us on here have ferrets with gorgeous fur. You talk about healthy ferrets but refuse to believe people when they tell you of their own kibble eating healthy ferrets that have lived longer than any of your ferrets. The bottom line here is that people are sickened by the fact that you obviously ENJOY feeding live prey to your ferrets. I truly believe that you have found a way to fulfill your sick needs by owning ferrets. People eat meat but do not kill animals and people that feed animals to animals do so AFTER they are dead...pre-killed or bought from a store or in the form of kibble. People on this list have described to me how you post photos of live prey being torn apart by your ferrets. You actually set up what looks like a miniature dog fighting arena including splash boards to contain the blood. ONLY people that enjoy seeing fear and terror in another creatures eyes would do that. I feel sad for you and haven't figured out why you enjoy death. Childhood trauma? Born with no soul? Whatever it is......it is terribly sad because not only you suffer but others around you suffer including defenseless creatures. People on this list are not close-minded about other feeding possibilities...they just don't like being harrassed about it. Most people admittedly skip your posts because they have tender hearts toward any and all animals and are quite frankly tired of your rantings and ravings. Nancy, wondering WHY she is even responding because Kim is so close-minded and so unaccepting of anyone else's way of doing things and so DEMANDING that we not be close-minded to her way of doing things.....oh crap....didn't I say I was DONE with responding....yup I did.....but you Kim, I just wanted you to know that I continue to reply because I recognize someone in pain and I do hope you get some help with your emotional pain before putting others through more pain because of it. And yes I send a hug to you because I sense the hugs you got in the past were not the good kind. [Posted in FML 6895]