I am not saying who this is. That person's information is not mine to share, but here are some things you may not have known which might help you to know for avoiding a horror in the future. --- It is a horrible, horrible type of food poisoning, and I just can NOT get some people to the risks of food poisoning seriously, or to realize that shiga toxin remains to some extent after cooking and sometimes it remains in high enough levels to do this. Before slaughter some chicken farms give slaughter house cattle waste or other animal waste to chickens to fatten them more. Some of these diseases remain a while in chickens, especially in the crop. Even Mad Cow Disease (a prion disease that chickens do not get) remains to some extent in the crop for up to a few weeks if my memory serves for the time frame which is why some parts of the world are outlawing the feeding of mammal slaughter debris to chickens which are meant for feeding anyone. So, even though cattle are the usual origin of shiga toxin producing strains of E. coli, there is a route by which that can get into cattle. Cattle in turn are often fed fish meal and other animal meals before slaughter to add fat. This is helping deplete already badly stressed fisheries. The fisheries of the world have been rapidly declining since something like the mid 1990s or mid 1980s. (I read a study on it a while ago but not closely so do not recall the date.) and Global Warming increases that because many phytoplankton can not cope with temperature changes, more storms, decreased salinity, or changing currents depending on their location. No, I am not a vegetarian, just aware that many farming and slaughter practices are being done in ways that are very risky. I think I will copy this information to the FML as "part of a conversation with a person tragically losing ferrets to shiga toxin producing E. coli". Sukie (not a vet) Recommended ferret health links: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/ http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html http://www.miamiferret.org/ http://www.ferrethealth.msu.edu/ http://www.ferretcongress.org/ http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html all ferret topics: http://listserv.ferretmailinglist.org/archives/ferret-search.html "All hail the procrastinators for they shall rule the world tomorrow." (2010, Steve Crandall) "This message is rated PG for extreme bravery in a vacuum." (2010, Steve Crandall) [Posted in FML 6784]