Kim, OMG your post was simply HORRIFYING! You feed your snakes rabbits!!!?? So why not ferrets? Do you find them more "warm and fuzzy" than rabbits? If an animal has been taken out of its natural environment it should no longer be necessary to feed "live" food. My brother feeds his snake dead mice. He once place two baby mice in that cage when his snake was young. Needless to say those mice are now my baby cousin's pets and the fight we had over that was a thunderstorm. However he came to understand why you can't just place a live animal with no defense in a cage to die. Animals in a natural setting have at least some sort of defense. A way to try a save themselves. Who are you to decide the fate of any animal? What if a large had came out of the sky and picked you up placed you in a cage with an animal that was going to eat you, how would you like it? We, as humans think we have the right to do such things. We don't! I do NOT agree that some animals are just meant to be food. You talk of kibble as though it poison. Do you eat only all natural, non processed foods? If not you must be killing yourself slowly. Again, who are you to say that kibble is not good? Please understand I am in no way trying to be hurtful, even though your post was abrupt at best -- Misty Hosier Kiki's Corner, Ferret Home http://www.freewebs.com/kikiscorner/index.htm http://www.myspace.com/mistyrose33 [Moderator's note: Hi, Misty and FMLers. Please remember this is a FERRET list. Debating the best diet for snakes -- or for Kim! -- is off topic unless we're discussing feeding ferrets to snakes, which I don't think anyone on the FML was advocating. Many long-term FML subscribers know the topic of the appropriateness of kibble (or kibble vs whole prey and/or fresh foods) is a recurring theme here. Many people feel there's much to learn and discuss -- and new subscribers often learn a great deal when the subject comes up. The trouble is, the discussion always eventually degrades to the point of being heated and useless and I eventually have to call the topic closed until "next time". "Next time" varies, but it's generally when I feel there have been enough new subscribers who could benefit from the discussion and that enough time has elapsed so that the existing subscribers won't unsubscribe en-masse at the first hint of the ugly discussion recurring. "Next time" is not here yet. BIG] [Posted in FML 6385]