I don't know if any of you ever used the ferret newsgroups. It was a time before these ferret groups. AOL was the leader in chat groups. Through them, I found Alt.Pets.Ferrets APF. In the late 90's it was the place to be for ferret information. (before I found the FML) One of the major contributors was Russell Prater. He was the * URA a redneck* guy before Jeff Foxworthy even thought of it. A wealth of ferret knowledge, he helped many a newbie (me) get through a crisis. Russ passed away recently. Those of us that knew him best are trying to raise enough funds to name a baby Black Foot Ferret after him. We're having a raffle. It will end on September 10th. Ignore the grits thing - that is a joke among the Carpetsharksink yahoo group. Grits are good! Anyhow, there are some good prizes there. Please consider entering. http://carpetsharksink.com/russ.html Thanks, Ruth [Posted in FML 6086]