Alexandra I just read of Ping's lack and I have the perfect solution - neutacles. I probably mispelled them but they are a new fashion accessory for dogs. Fake testacles so they can look "manly" I bet they would make a couple marble sized ones for Ping. By the way, the hobs I've noticed are like the huge guy you described. They love to lay on their backs with their hind legs wide spread and nap showing off what they've got. Laurel [Posted in FML 5733]