[Moderator's note: This response surprised me and it would not have made the FML, except that Sukie further clarified her post, so perhaps there was communication already. BIG] First things first SUKIE why did you feel necessary to send me an email questioning my post and also send it to the group, Sounds to me you are looking for a fight on the forum, You need to understand I do not know you personally and I have never questioned you publicly on any post you listed on the FML or Yahoo,Regardless to what is was or how important it was,I have more respect for you as a person and a fellow ferret person Well it is kind of hard to tell if you are truly interested or trying to make yourself out to be smarter than my 2 vets,I am aware of the products that were recalled, Please take what I am saying the wrong way But Killer ment a lot to alot of people,the vet has asked to keep the body and run more tests...etc for several different agencies which I do not who they are. All I know is the owner (Chett and Myself)since I was the orginal last know owner before Chett adopted had to sign a release for the tests to be done and the results to given out, When that is complete the the body is to be shipped to Atlanta for more testing by Chenango Valley Pet Foods reps , he is supposed to receive copies and he has promised me that I could have copies so to let the rest of the ferret community know, I understand that they said they suspected there may be a problem that was the reason for the recall but since they were notified by the vet they have been asking and requesting all the medical and history on killer,The vet,owner and myself (shelter) are being very cooperative and the owner has informed all he wants is to make sure it doesnt happen anymore So please understand I truly do not know everything yet butI DO KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE OF DEATH WAS ,and I am not trying to pussyfoot around and try to make myself sound smarter and try to put anyone else down for there post. (AND I AM NOT VET,BUT I HAVE SEVERAL GREAT ONES I work with,and since I trust them and I did not go to school to be a vet ,I trust them whole heartedly. I will make it public on the forum and to all groups I can find,I do know that Walmart is one of there biggest suppliers of all sizes of 8 and 1 and three of the stores here have taken all 8 and 1 including Ultimate off the shelves and are wating for new/current product shipments. Myself I personally Do Not Use 8 and 1 and if a ferret comes in and has been eating that I make it a point to get it off that ,and get it on a better food, The only advantage to using 8 and1 is you can buy it almost anywhere,and that is not saying much. And if and when I here more of the results I will copy and paste it in an email to the FML. PS THIS LINK http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html on the bottom of all emails doesn't work take a little bit of time to fix it ,so before you point out the speck in my eye take the 2 x 4 out of yours Sincerely, James Barr Zilla's Fuzzy Friends Ferret Rescue and Shelter [log in to unmask] [Moderator's note: http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html has always worked for me and still does. BIG] [Posted in FML 5620]