I may be wrong, but since the general consensus about the McKay situation has been that those IN Ohio needed to be the most involved people to do the most good. Someone asked me 'why' HOFA didn't get involved, either 'more' or 'at all' with this problem......I had to ask this person, "Who is HOFA"?...I simply did not know......and when told, I couldn't remember reading anything from them here on the list! Please, I am NOT trying to put down or flame this possible excellent organization, I know nothing about them, but it seems that MICHIGAN fert owners and others from other states, contributed more to this venture than those of you in Ohio! Tell me I'm wrong, if that's the case, or tell us all why this was not!?......Maybe some people are steadfast "Lurkers", no matter how close to home something is occurring! If you have firm convictions about "Humane" Treatment of any animals, then you should SPEAK OUT and get Involved!!.... Again, if this is not the case, I apoligize.....and will pay closer attention next time! Myself, I wrote 3 letters to those that could do something about McKay,......hope you did the same! Dooks......John R. & the new jersey gang of 4, USA. john rich <[log in to unmask]> [Moderator's note: I'm not necessarily commenting on HOFA, but do note that often the people who do the most talk about it the least! BIG] [Posted in FML 5540]