Since there is so much controversy on this breeder, perhaps the family will allow a neutral party, I'd suggest a group of 3 people from different areas, to go there and look around to factually report what they find. This would clear up or justify concerns on the McKay ferret's conditions and environment at this time. Mutually agreed on unaltered pictures could be taken, showing the true condition of the environment and the ferrets, and posted for others to see the truth in visuals. (One post stated the building over the ferrets was not adequate so a visual of the building would help to clear up this issue.) I work for a management company part-time and when people move in or out of rentals, one of our agents is there doing a walk-through with the tenant, video taping the dwelling and writing down any concerns/discrpencies. This provides true documented proof of damages or needed repairs. This may work in the McKay farm situation too. Whoever has contact with the McKay family, would you please ask if they would agree to this type of arrangement? tle [Posted in FML 5538]