There is a group in Mexico which has been closing child brothels by doing hidden filming and then putting them on public sites similar to YouTube, complete with the brothels' addresses. Then the URL is circulated, including to media and government officials by many people. (It harkens back to people like Upton Sinclair who went to prison for publishing about the past (much, much worse) horrors of the meat industry which caused him real trouble personally but so greatly upset enough of the public that a large number of good regulations went into effect rapidly. Consumer education did not begin in the 60s; it only increased a lot then.) It may take waiting a while to be able to do this, but it's been going on for 30 years and many people I trust have spoken to me of what they themselves have encountered, so if people there with small enough recording equipment want to do it: wait till the pelters' guard is down, then film and post, and hopefully more than a few will do so enough times to upset the Ohio state politicians who can create better state laws. As with the group using this technique to close down child brothels it can used to create legal actions against a wide range of animal abusers. Meanwhile, hopefully, the state and federal authorities can do something more than has ever been done yet there. If they can't then those of you who have such cameras should consider possibly waiting, working up an assortment of ways to hide them, and then pouncing. I don't know what legal aspects are involved, but people film others without sound for news, toll non-payments, and more every day... Sukie (not a vet) Current FHL address: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth Recommended ferret health links: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/ http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc/ http://www.ferretcongress.org/ http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html [Posted in FML 5527]