Hello Lora, I guess I should apologize for mixing up my states - It has been many years since I studied geography-- and seeing how I am pretty much tied to the ferrets in NH, VT and surrounding areas.. also to the Legislative issues at our state capital and shelter responsibilities which include daily care, veterinary out source-ing for in house as well asshelter hospice ferrets, I tend not to have all my t's crossed or i's dotted these days. Doug McKay ferrets is a long known and long heard story-- and pardon me for assuming he was in MI I guess I got confused by your website which IS? in MI? To get to the point- Doug McKay's fur farm is a commercial entity -- also many re sellers some on this list are McKay loyalists... that being said we know they will read all that is posted. IF YOU HAVE WITNESSED the ATROCITIES you have stated- be aware that McKays AS A commercial entity MUST be USDA licensed ... so start with complaints IN WRITING to the regional USDA OFFICE-- Send complaints in duplicate to the National USDA office. That should get the ball rolling. Of course by now he already knows you might do this and has time to ready for the inspection . ALL ferret organizations should be aware that commercial farms get inspected-- and they get inspected more if there are complaints filed. Marshall's was inspected in years pat for infractions in caging-- it certainly sounds like that alone is worth filing complaints with USDA and the Ohio dept of agriculture-- USDA will supercede in authority if no rules apply to ferrets ( or mink) in Ohio. You must admit that your rebuttal - as well as initial post were more emotional in content than a factual presentation of the current conditions. I ask did you witness the situation? or are you reporting second or third hand that certainly was not clear form reading.? ONly actual witnesses can file a legitimate complaint, the same hearsay rules apply in a case like this as in any court case. Yes , the process may not be overnight - but given the number of animals-- the fact that mink are in close proximity to the ferrets thus making a ADV higher risk. Then monetary issues as well as staging for any intended rescue ( ADV testing) a triage area away from other animals / veterinary screening care all before spay/ neuter for almost a thousand animals -- are among the other hurdles that must be cleared.. clearly a good plan of action needs to be formulated. Buying breeding jills one at a time is NOT a good plan. Why? Because hundreds are being born as six are being sold - the breeder is still making a monetary gain while no cleanup or progress is being made. The animals sadly are expendable to him. That is why if a cleanup is intended it MUST go through the channels of proper authorities. I wish I had the silver bullet that would make you smile - and no this is not a cop out . Please research the RSA's for commercial agricultural animals inn OH and get them to me. ALso call the director of agriculture's office in Ohio and get some solid knowledge as to what is expected of brredersd-- if commercial breeders in Ohio are licensed & inspected.. between the USDA and OH dept of agriculture some solid ground must be found-- if not take it to PETA.... I really do NOT want to see PETA involved as they traditionally do things wrong, and will not care what happens to these ferrets rather that they are not caged in a breeding facility-- Work together for resolve and don't kill the messenger- Alicia D at ferret wise www.ferretwise.org [Posted in FML 5525]