Several years ago I went to what we called "Fat Camp", a couple of weeks on a small college campus where Weight Watchers kept us busy and fed us judiciously. The first week there I fell down roller skating and broke both wrists. Not only was it difficult to eat with casts on both forearms, we never knew how much weight, if any, I lost because they weighed a ton. Additional ironly here was that I was, that semester, teaching nursing students about orthopedic care, e.g. never get sand in the cast, never stick anything under it, use moleskin around the edges, use a turkey baster to blow air into it if it itches, etc. I complained bitterly to a physician about the inconvenience, how dirty the things were, how I couldn't bathe without fear of getting them wet, and so on. He smiled out of the corner of his mouth and said, "In other words it's a Really Good Cast!" Shut me right up. Bobbi McC KC Ferret Hotline and Shelter [Posted in FML 5511]