Yes, it's very hard to escape light pollution. I love that picture Sukie sent that shows global nighttime illumination. My area shows as very dark and, in fact, i can see many more stars here than other US places I have lived. However, in this tiny rural town there are people who have astoundingly bright lights (a sort of icky bright light green) that are mounted on very tall poles. I assue they are there for thieves, but don't really know -- time to ask someone! Anyway, there are a couple of these lights across the creek from me, and with the shades up at night, their light shines right through my livingroom and out onto the lawn!!!! In bedrooms it jsut reflects back off the walls. One light shines into the ferret room too. YOW. And we do not have small lots here -- I am talking about acres! Also, I have friends in rural Mexico (mountains outside of Oaxaca). When electricity arrived 10 (?) years ago, they got the same thing, but the bright light up on the pole is white. I hope to visit a friend in Ethiopia this winter (ah, those Frequet Flyer miles!). I lived there 1968-72 and visited again in 1995. Nights were plenty dark as I remember. I bet it still is! You'll probably find it hard to believ, but I am remotely considering re-retiring there! After selling my house wd I have to spend all the proceeds on animal tansport? Out in the ferts' outdoor pens, they are digging tunnels and spending time in the black tubing. Probably getting good doses of darkness. It is so cool to see the oles to their tunnels! I thought I'd wait till the elevated walkway was done to take pix for you, FMLers, but that part of the project is still just stumbling along. But the pens themselves are great. I planted them with bamboo so there would be green year-round. A friend is goin to help me make a website at the start of Nov, so I will have pix for you then, whether the walkway is done or not. [Posted in FML 5398]