Wolfy, I don't know where you can get up to date info on this. Howeveer I do know that breaking an ordinance gets you a fine or a citation and breaking a law gets you arrested. An ordinance is a law enacted by a municipal body, such as a city council or county commission (sometimes called county council or county board of supervisors). Ordinances govern matters not already covered by state or federal laws such as zoning, safety and building regulations. law n. 1) any system of regulations to govern the conduct of the people of a community, society or nation, in response to the need for regularity, consistency and justice based upon collective human experience. As for how to call, a lawyer is the only thing I could suggest. If you have any lawyer friends, that would be even better. Or maybe cop friends. I tried searching the net for info. I cannot really find anything worthwhile about it. The only thing I know is that they are illeagal in CA because it's everywhere you look. I know this probably doesn't help much, but it's the best I could do. ~Nikki~ [Posted in FML issue 5265]