There is a vet in PA would figured out how to fix these even when they are beyond what a cast can help heal, working on a ferret (of some real sweeties) who had congenital problems with both elbows so they failed under normal stresses. No one else could get them back in. The vet is Judith Rutkowski, Allentown Animal Clinic (610) 434-4470 so your vet could call her for long distance consultation She used hypodermic needles, plastic caps and wires to construct pins. For that ferret the pinning construct did not even need to be in forever. -- Sukie (not a vet, and not speaking for any of the below in my private posts) Recommended health resources to help ferrets and the people who love them: Ferret Health List http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/ferrethealth FHL Archives http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ AFIP Ferret Pathology http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html Miamiferrets http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc/ International Ferret Congress Critical References http://www.ferretcongress.org [Posted in FML issue 5240]