Has anyone thought to contact the good doctor and ask him for a copy of his talk? I found this in a quick search. I do not think there are that many Dr. Kawasaki practicing ferret veterinary services. Woodbridge - Old Bridge Veterinary Hospital. Dr. Thomas Kawasaki. 703-690-2580 James & Family Loving: Fred & Max Missing: Wheezer, Pym, Rikki, Jako & Riley, Bebe "We recite the names, lest we forget" Moru, Sage Ferretus [Moderator's note: Please don't -- at least not individually. Is there anyone who was at the symposium who can write it up or who has a copy of the paper? I can transscribe it and make it available to all. (With the Dr.'s permission, of course, though he has always granted it. BIG] [Posted in FML issue 5191]