Hi Alicia We will have to stop meeting like this and agreeing on subjects or some one will try and say that I have put you up to it. Before I post your mail on other boards and some one points out that I have hijacked it off FML have I got your permission to post it on other boards? Tony -- Please contact me I can be of any help, I am not a vet and in the past 30+ years none of my animals have visited my vet for anything other than routine check ups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/intact-ferrets/ Come see my ferrets http://www.geocities.com/houseferrets13uk/Tonys_Pets.html Some of our fundraising events http://www.geocities.com/houseferrets13uk/Show.html http://www.headway.org.uk/ The brain Injury association [Posted in FML issue 5193]