Gerri, is it possible that there is a silent carrier of a bacterial sinus infection in your house? We had that happen once with a human being the "typhoid mary" of bacterial sinus infections here. Once that person was also the treated the rest of us stopped getting the infection over and over. I hope that Jasmine forgives you about having to take meds soon! Her favourite passtime has always been to stash food.... an enormous pile of meat, chicks, mice etc in various stages of decay. LOL! You are right, Shirley. Kibble is better that way (as a stash) -- unless it gets wet in which case it stinks and gets moldy, or gets grain beetles or mold beetles. Still, I think what you went through is worse than what we get with kibble here in terms of odor and arthropod feeders. I can tell you that a stashed tiny bit of banana will stink up an entire small house if it rots wrong, though. We had one who needed it for potassium during a year plus of cardiomyopathy. The stink was unimaginable. I strongly advise that when a ferret gets banana be SURE that you know that it has been eaten. Anthony wrote: So wether we feed kibble, cooked chicken, raw chicken, or freeze-dried mice, can we all agree it is a personal decision for each ferret owner to determine what they believe is best for their pet? And can we all agree we can be skeptical of other feeding methods without resorting to negating the merits of them? And, most of all, as we all have a right to our opinions, can we agree to keep fair criticism aimed at posters' arguments, not their persona or credentials? and Krista wrote: So this is starting to get a bit out of hand. Let's just stick to the facts and/or valid opinions for pros and cons for each diet instead of personal insults, etc. You are both exactly right and I think that things are now finally moving in that direction, fortunately, given what was learned in some of the private discussions I had today and yesterday with some people who behaved otherwise earlier. I found out that providing info on treatments and a simple statement getting across that experiences can change and sadly not always for the better was seen as desiring the death of some ferrets, and that a heads up on something which had nothing to do with any list in particular and was not a criticism, and as far as I knew was discussed fully at the time seems to have either not been communicated clearly and I never knew it at the time or mutated in reflection, which certainly can happen when a long time frame is involved. I think things are back to normal again, with FMLers respecting each others' intelligence and choices. Personally, though, I am tired. Going into more detail at a time when I have a lot of extra work for a while is beyond me, so I hope that everyone will now feel safe enough to speak once again, and that you do so -- fairly and on-topic. The FML is for everyone here. -- Sukie (not a vet) Ferret Health List co-moderator http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/ferrethealth FHL Archives fan http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ replacing http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org International Ferret Congress advisor http://www.ferretcongress.org [Posted in FML issue 5166]