That kit just has not dropped the kit canines yet. Sometimes those need to be extracted because they sometimes get stuck and can cause an abscess then, but it is easily done. Here is info on aging kits dentally: The reputable way to age kits is by dental eruption ages for many of the adult dentition, then count backwards to date of acquisition: page 37, _Biology and Diseases of the Ferret, 2nd edition_: "The deciduous teeth erupt between 20 and 28 days" and on page 36, same text this data: Upper Canine: 50 days Molar 1: 53 days Premolars 2, 3 and 4: 60 days Lower: Canine and Molar 1: 50 days Premolar 2: 60 days Premolar 3: 67 days Premolar 4 and Molar 2: 74 days The eruption ages for the incisors are more variable, but the others are tight enough that you can age a ferret kit with them. CEP tests: For those who missed it, a few days ago on the FML Mary McCarty-Houser, Vice President, American Ferret Assn <http://www.ferret.org> announced that a new provider of the CEP test for ADV in ferrets now exists. United is going to be sold, but some of its assets are first being spun off, as in this case. Here is the data Mary provided for you and your vets: Blue Cross Animal Hospital ATTENTION: Dr Blau - CEP TESTS 401 N Miller Ave Burley, ID 83318 Phone: 208-678-5553 Fax: 208-677-8957 with the request that they be called at least a day in advance so that they expect ADV tests to be coming in. The tests will be $10 per sample. The CEP test has a high degree of accuracy and had a lot of independent confirmation before its release. -- Sukie (not a vet) Ferret Health List co-moderator http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/ferrethealth FHL Archives fan http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ replacing http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org International Ferret Congress advisor http://www.ferretcongress.org [Posted in FML issue 5159]