This is an excellent read: http://www.mlmwatch.org/04C/Alpine/alpine.html http://www.mlmwatch.org/index.html is a physician's site which looks at marketing abuses with medical claims, and more. The fact is that some things for which health claims are made, whether for veterinary or human health just don't live up to the claims, and some even contain downright harmful ingredients, whether some of the dangerous herbs like ephedra or licorice root, or gases like ozone, or... --- I am so glad to learn that Ping is He will no longer be able to get wrappers that can cause blockages and seeds which contain some cyanide (though not as much as some related Prunus plant family members). You two must have had some scary images come to you before you could laugh about that stash! So, Ping is He will have to figure out some new havoc to create. I'm sure Puma will advise. -- Sukie (not a vet) Ferret Health List co-moderator http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/ferrethealth FHL Archives fan http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ replacing http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org International Ferret Congress advisor http://www.ferretcongress.org [Posted in FML issue 5107]