Oh, and I DID NOT mean to give the feeling that any of these people Mike was seeking were posers. Sorry if that gets read into that. It is entirely unintended if anyone reads it that way. Mike, Pam, and I are used to each other and our shorthand usually works fine among us alone. For those who don't know me that well, though: I had to look up someone recently for a different person and the one I was looking up had led the person on to expect credentials that didn't exist: there was a dearth of publications, no dissertation on file where the person claimed to have completed degrees even though the university does make them available on the internet, no listing for the person in the claimed department, etc. Anyway, that was private so no further details... I guess that was just on my mind, so when I mentioned that one search technique may be useful I also added one way I had most recently used it. It is not the first time I have found that a person in the ferret world is inflating things. It is a rare problem, but it does exist. On the other hand, searching publications and then going back to the university listings has possibly been useful recently for helping someone find the authors of a paper that had a novel health approach which perhaps helped her with an unusual problem IF that is even what was going on (calcium used for might have been possibly a vanishingly rare paresis response to an antibiotic). Searching that way is a good technique because it is not always obvious offhand who is a poser and it is important at times to be able to weigh qualifications. For the people Mike mentioned I was thinking in terms of looking for REAL people, NOT posers. BTW, using Google or other search engines to look for recent publications is also a great way to keep up on what friends are doing. There are several friends from decades ago I communicate with only a few times a year or so who I follow that way, and that way when they write again I surprise them with a mention of things that they didn't know I knew about and get them laughing. Besides, it is a cool way to learn. -- Sukie (not a vet) Ferret Health List co-moderator http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/ferrethealth FHL Archives fan http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ replacing http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org International Ferret Congress advisor http://www.ferretcongress.org [Posted in FML issue 5047]