Ok ok so I was formally scolded for not speaking up and you are right 100% and hind sight is also 20/20 and maybe if I would be able to post with my name and not be outcasted I would bring out the whole story and expose these people but now is not the time for I believe that what goes around comes around. I should have spoken up and I should have said it right to the person but I didn't and that upsets me thinking about the other ferrets in her shelter and breeding. The ferret didn't fall it was pushed!!! plain and simple nuf said on that.... Kudos to what Tracy said. As I said too we are all entitled to our own opinions and due to politics in the ferret community some of us have had to step back and just watch what goes on. It is not just with ferrets it is with all shelters and even human adoption agencies but how many people speak up? Not alot and most of the time it is not heard or cared about until it is too late. Tracy is right if you don't like one then give to another and that is what I have chosen to do. I am working with a shelter right now called FerretWise and I could not be happier. These people are wonderful and very open to what goes on in their shelter. They have nothing to hide like some others so yes Tracy you are right just step aside and go somewhere else where you know things are done right....You go girl!!! Peace to you all... [AD] [Posted in FML issue 5007]