I have to agree with Anon. Had the original poster simply stated that she felt that there were too many ads, that would've been just an opinion. However, BIG, she signaled out specific shelters (check the original posts), which made it a personal attack on those shelters. It's like the difference between saying "I think all politicians are idiots" and saying "I think Bush is an idiot". The first is an opinion, be it right or wrong, the latter is a personal attack on Bush. (just an example folks, save your flames, Bush supporters...LOL). And as a direct result there has been no mention of raffles, auctions or websites, which is truly sad. Here we all are on a specialized group to discuss animals that we are passionate about, and now there are those who need our help but are too leary to ask for it because someone "yelled" at those who do. How passionate are we if we can't manage to scroll past "annoying" advertisements so that others who want to help can do so? So I say advertise all you want, if others really care about these little critters they will scroll by and not make a fuss....that can be their contribution to the shelters. Caryn [Moderator's note: If names were originally mentioned you do have a point... I can't look at it now but I will as soon as I can. There have [Posted in FML issue 4860]