I thought it sounded like you have a Martin's cage - with that root top description. The Corner Creek site has been down for over a week. I was recently shown a wonderful site for all kinds of cagees and cage making materials. It is Da-Mar's. http://www.damars.com/ You can buy anything from a 100 foot roll of vinyl coated cage wire to having them cut you something just to size and they fo offer drop pans, litter pans, etc as well. And they've got the Crock Locs which used to be made by J.V. Products. JV sold out. And the Lixit Widemouth water bottles - lots of my favorite things!! Jerri Carel The Ferret Haven Louisville, KY (502) 261-0880 [Posted in FML issue 4684]