Bob, Could you, possibly, write the FML (or me), a short comparitive list on the differences in ferreting between Eurpeans and us when you get back? Ex Adrenal treatment: US -- surgery, lupron, at times melantonin are most common Europe -- prevention is used more than treatment such as outside natural lighting, better nest boxes. [and them maybe what, such a further explanation of treatment might be that they don't treat it, perhaps they are more apt to not treat at all, then euthanize when the animal is older and declining. That is just a "made up" example] Frequency of feeding: US -- free feed Europe -- two times a day Then maybe you can elaborate in a detailed way in future posts? Sometimes when I read the long versions first I have a difficult time sorting things out and remembering things. When I see it in phrases and mapped out ... bam it's in my head...then I can move on to details. I'm dying for this information. I'm so interested. Wolfy http://wolfysluv.jacksnet.com [Posted in FML issue 4652]