HERE IS DARRIN`S P.S., VERBATEM: "John, I forgot to say one thing... descenting is NOT done in Australia, and is considered a cruelty UNLESS there is a medical reason for doing so... sorry, Darrin." Here are 2 different Countries, with 2 different opinions on what is "CRUEL"! I like the Australian interpretation!! thank you. john r. & the gang. jdr. [Posted in FML issue 4669]