River, Rudy & Rayna write >ground up the whole chicken in the grinder, then put it in the blender >and puree with water, and then cooked it on the stove for 30 mins. I find that doing the meat grinding first, then cooking with water and then blending works well. I include the ground egg shells during cooking, cook only long enough to get rid of all the pink, then add the kibble after turning off the heat. I let it cool a bit, add the other ingredients, and blend in batches. I use a hand crank grinder I bought quite cheaply on ebay. Works quite well and is good for building up arm muscles. :-) Linda Iroff [Posted in FML issue 4611]