The postings in regards to Mr. Owings and his ferrets was done in the deepest of respects and not meant to be a flame, one can clearly see that in the way that the posts were written. No need to get defensive though I could see how one would. While I would not want to see David not post because he is afraid to now, on the other hand, I myself have sat here after reading several posts saying to myself, "Some households just should not have ferrets for pets,". It does not mean they are not a loving home. Or a bad ferret mommy/daddy. It simply means they are not equipped to take care of a ferret. Accident after accident will typically mean the latter. I am currently owned by five and have never (I know, sheer luck) had any problems with any dying, escaping, or just simply an accidental death. After all, this list is about taking care of *cough* FERRETS, is it not?? Perhaps we just need to educate Mr. Owings how to be a better ferret daddy so he is better equipped. Sue and the fab five Dante, Toby, Templeton, Nala and Hooper [Posted in FML issue 4619]