Hey Wolfy, thanks for your post and information! I will be debating all my options and hopefully starting some training soon. I actually bought Romey (Romeo) because he was deaf! or so I think he is.. And the fact that he was just so adorable! He still does seem to react to the occasional sound... but more often than not doesn't. I still have to test range of pitch tho. He does have some characteristics of deafness.. no fear of running water... the huge majority of the time no reaction to sound... very easy to creep up on... BOUNDLESS engery.. tho he is a kit and they do have a lot of energy.. but he runs for HOURS and hours on end... without stopping to eat sleep drink or anything.. even when i put him right in front of the stuff... yeesh... i've only ever found him sleeping somewhere twice.. lol but Anyway, just thought I'd say thank you... so yea.. thanks! hehe. Have a ferrety day! - Jules Romeo Ashkevron, & Julliet Rethwellan [Posted in FML issue 4556]