Not once have I disputed the fact that clarification for the 24 hour Lupron is needed. Not once. I am focusing on potential life-saving information being withheld. Without having an accurate number (which seems impossible to attain anyway), I think it would be safe to estimate there are hundreds, if not more, ferrets on Lupron (any form). So how many are at risk because of this information being withheld? When you imply lives have been lost because of this medication, did you not think at least ONE out of the three-thousand plus people that subscribe to the FML would want more info? YOU are asking for the whole process to be made more clear so that consumers can make a more informed decision and possibly save lives. I am asking for more information that may save even more. If my vet were to ever recommend ANY medication for one of my ferrets, and I declined because "so-and-so said ferrets have died from it" he'd want more info. And if I turned around and told him I didn't HAVE any, and that my rationale behind my decision was a matter of "because he/she SAID so", he'd look at me like I was insane. How can ANYONE make a sound and informed decision with that mentality? No facts or withholding crucial information = no improvements or advancements on existing health-care. For anyone or anything. Period. If someone were to post on the FHL that a ferret had an adverse reaction to something like - Benadryl, Prednisone or Baytril - all of which are used substantially in veterinary medicine, and the ferret ultimately died, would YOU not want further information????? Would YOU not want this claim substantiated? Would you at that time continue to have an appreciation for someone's "confidence" - when you know that MORE ferrets could die? And ultimately, would you even be able to understand why someone would want to keep it confidential, knowing that other ferrets may face the same fate because of it? What is unacceptable to me, is that crucial and potentially life-saving information is being withheld, and NOT because I don't appreciate the need to respect someone's confidence as you've so boldly implied. I fully understand the concept of trust. What I don't understand is WHY this information is being kept confidential in the first place. Do these people not understand the importance of this information? Has it not been explained that while they've suffered a great loss, sharing this information might save others from having to go through the same thing??? I once wore those rose-coloured glasses - assuming all people in the veterinary profession were infallible and always knew what they were doing and talking about - that's why they're vets. But those glasses came off 4 years ago, when my first ferret was on pred for insulinoma. That eventually led to diabetes because I was NEVER told when I called the vet clinic for Pred refills that she had to be brought in for bloodwork to monitor her levels. And after WEEKS of insisting (not forcefully enough) that she DIDN'T have a cold, but in fact CARDIO (on the advice of another well respected vet in this community), they finally agreed to do an x-ray that confirmed it WAS cardio. But it was TOO LATE. She taught me a very valuable lesson, my precious Peanut, at a very high price - with her life. The lesson being that all these people are human, and DON'T know everything, and DON'T have all the answers. And if I'm not happy with, or am unsure of what ANYONE is saying or doing - QUESTION EVERYTHING. Forget the "because they said so", with the assumption that "they" always know what they're talking about. And if someone believes things are the way they are because they've always been that way, and has nothing substantial to back it up - then move on. Those are the same kind of people that kept insisting the world was indeed.....flat....... If you want to take my legitimate questions personally and continue to do backflips and somersaults to avoid the issue at hand, and ultimately turn these questions into something they weren't meant to be - that's entirely up to you. I think you need to step back and re-evaluate what's been said, and re-read all of my posts. Again, I've never challenged your asking for product clarification regarding the 24 hour Lupron. I simply want to know about how the ferret(s) died, etc, so that someday I might prevent it from happening to one of my own. Ultimately if what you claim is true, and should you (or WHOEVER) choose to keep this information confidential, it will be the ferrets who will pay the ultimate price - with their lives. Yet another example of how animals will continue to suffer from the sword of humanity's "me" syndrome...... [Posted in FML issue 4558]