In a side note to the issues brought up about accounting procedures, I thought I would pass some information along. I believe a shelter should state whether it is not-for profit, non-profit, or a for profit shelter. We seem to think that just because a shelter is a "shelter" that they are always broke (and for good reason --we are almost always!), however if a shelter chooses to give themselves a salary or turn into a store to support themselves so be it -- BUT it should be clearly stated, so that the public understands how an organization is run. Most shelters do not have their own accounting department or even a person who does the accounting part of the job. Usually the ones who scoop the boxes also pay the bills, buy supplies, and make the return phone calls as well as keep the books. However, there is something to be said about accountability for monetary records. All legitiamate businesses, any kind -- any where, will have some sort of accounting ledger. This may be a pile of receipts, cancelled checks, or a big pile of papers that will someday be filed. In my opinion, ANY respectable shelter should be willing to at least show those piles or ledgers to supporters who ask where money is going. If a shelter wants a 501(c)3 ruling, financials need to be done. If a shelter wants to be listed on a Chamber or Commerce list or Better Business Bureau, some sort of financials need to be done. If a shelter wants a grant, something has to be available to the public. Anyone who cares for ferrets could call themselves a shelter -- what makes a Shelter survive is credentials, public support, and a reputation that they are doing something legitamate and positive. I ask all of you out there to always test a business/shelter by doing this thought process before donating time and resources: Ask a question about the business/shelter that is financial in nature and if the answerer will not tell you, or says "it doesn't really matter" then there is something to be hidden. If the organization says, "I'll have to check my big 'ol stack of receipts and papers" or offers SOME information, then at least you know they aren't outrightly hiding something. Those who skirt issues often have something to hide. This is a general statement that works for all facets of life. Some choose to run shelters differently than others. Supporters will flock to where they feel their money is best used. Like most things in life, it is a judgement call on the person who wants to give their support. Sorry, I'm so wordy.. forgive me? Laura Baran [Posted in FML issue 4527]