>Someone had posted not too long ago about having the butcher grind up >the whole chicken before you take it home and cook it up & so making the >whole chicken gravy process a bit easier I am not the person who posted previously about this but I do have the butcher grind up whole chickens before I pick them up. There aren't very many butcher shops who will do this but it's a great time saver and well worth it if you can find one. I call in about 2 days before I need them and ask to have them run through their finest grinder. Of course, they know me now and I no longer have to ask. I use Bob Church's recipe as a base and omit the honey. I add Deliver 2.0 in one batch for sick, older and recovering ferrets who need the extra supplements and calories. I leave it out of the 2nd batch and use the gravy for treats for the healthy ones. I fill snack size baggies and freeze them, taking one or more out every day. I have found that I rarely have to force feed sick ferrets and they all seem to love it. Hope that helps. [Posted in FML issue 4470]