Thanks to the person who posted the links for the Wysong food products. It says, "Archetype contains no grains which unnaturally dilute the diet with high levels of carbs." I then read the ingredients which include ground brown rice, ground wheat, and ground corn. I thought these items were not desirable, so I don't understand how they can make that statement about containing no grains. Could anyone explain and has anyone used the expensive beef food? I'm looking for some feedback on this food, good and bad. Thanks. Moxie and Nexus [Posted in FML issue 4460]