CArolina Ferrets are aactualy bad breeders Lisa Leidig and i have discussed them and all of their ferrets are kept out side and poorly maintained. Shady Hollow ferretry and Just a business of ferrets are VERY excellent Sally heber is shady hollow and Jb is run by vicky mckimmey both are afa certified if you have any questons on their sites just email me and ill send you the links Tyler [Posted in FML issue 4436]