Melanee *I* never said that *I* lost any ferrets. My Bart and Victoria are fine. Please pay more attention and don't assume things (But, thanks for the thought anyway :o) My whole discussion and grief was sparked by the deaths of other's ferrets. This is why I am now looking into the best and worst anesthesia methods. If there is a common denominator; a common med that's being used that is notorious for killing ferrets, it is up to people like *US* to try to get it removed from vet practices permanently. OTOH, it is also up to *US* to demand that safer things like Isoflurane be used instead. So, now I am considering taking a survey of the worst and best anesthesia meds. From now on, every time I hear of an anesthesia related ferret death, I will be asking what kind they used. I agree with what you said about vets, but here, in the very primitive "city" of Cheyenne, Wyoming, there is only one ferret vet, and I (we) have never met him. Here, I am in such a poverty situation that I can't even begin to afford a vet, and at this rate, it'll be a while before I can afford it. If myself, my cats or my ferrets get sick and need medical attention, we are all doomed. Moving to Wyoming was the biggest mistake that I have ever made! Gary, Bart and Victoria (and Lectris and Troni) [Posted in FML issue 4293]