Hi Pherit, My hero is White Russian. It was his mommy and his friend Kat Parsons that grabbed my attention and taught me about ADV. Your post was beautiful yesterday. I thank you for writing it for the sake of all ferrets. I went to the ferret universe page that you gave and I give it a definate thumbs up!!! My ADV Straight page needs to be corrected and updated, as well as the old links, but I have yet to figure out how to do that now that I am not on geocities anymore. I've been a very slow learner, and I' haven't managed an update in a while. There used to not be very much information out there for the ferret owner back when I made that page. I"m seeing access to information getting better all the time. We need more. I'm very appreciative to see a site out there with such great information, and to have someone out there speaking up for the prevention of ADV. It's a wonderful page, thank you for posting it. Wolfy Win the White Russian Quilt! http://help4adv.terrabox.com/WRMQ.html Wolfy's site has MOVED to: http://wolfysluv.jacksnet.com/ [Posted in FML issue 4190]