Sure you can use human style clippers, just make sure that they aren't dull or you will have a splintery claw resulting. We prefer the human style ones because of better visibility. Despite both of us having lousy eyes we've never nicked a vein so far in 21 years. In fact, there are even human style ones with attached magnifying lenses. Tuli is a tricky one -- sounds like our Seven when she first came here. Sevie was very, very insecure and was making up for it by being a bully. If memory serves what we did was to lavish Sevie with attention and even though it seems backward for a bully I think that we provided her with some additional safe scent (a safe perfume) since stink is status for ferrets and this made the physical attacks less necessary. *IF* I am reading you right and not throwing in too much data from our experience with Sevie the same may work there. Scent's a funny thing for choosing whom to place it upon and sometimes it needs to be shampooed off and forgotten or shampooed off and given to someone else. Seedy stools often are due to malabsorption of fats or sometimes due to people giving too much fat for an individual. They are pretty much balls composed largely of lipids. You'll find a useful poop chart at http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc . I missed the rest of the post, just saw a mention of the seediness in a later post. Todd writes: >Yep. Especially driving green tractors on the highway. Without >a license. And near-sighted to boot. No turn signals. Improper >exhaust. Short little feet don't reach no pedals. Yeah, and it only gets worse when the navigator is dressed up in aluminum foil and the top of the salt shaker. I tell you, I don't know ferrets run their flying saucers and teleporters when they are so bad at tractors. Addison's: you have been having electrolyte tests run and Ben is getting either Florinef or Percorten, right? There is a lot about this condition in the Archives of both the FML and FHL: http://listserv.cuny.edu/archives/ferret-search.html http://fhl.sonic-weasel.org/ The info includes tricks from vets for vets for further helping ones with crashes. Sometimes lympho is hidden in ferrets; anyone who has had ferrets long enough has encountered such situations. There are even ferret vets who have written of being in such a situation with their own families. We haven't personally found it to be the norm, but certainly have been in the same sort of position. [Posted in FML issue 4158]