Like others I find it annoying and insulting when others use my work without permission, or apply my name to something I didn't write (not copyright but something which is also illegal which a defunct website did to multiple people years ago), but there is another thing which I have had happen to me. I've had ferret things I posted wind up used without permission and altered in small ways that impacted on the meaning and then had whichever person who had that website attach one name (that person's or mine) or both of our names to it. That, too, is theft and copyright infringement, and it undermines reputations due to the changed meanings. This aspect is one that I think hasn't appeared, yet in the conversation. If it has, then you can feel free to remove this note, Bill, rather than have me repeat the point. In a piece (which the author has agreed can be used) it is only polite and most accurate to run alterations past the writer before presenting the piece and depending on how the re-writing is done those changes may need to appear in [ ] marks. Want to check to see who is using your stuff without permission? If the name or a variation is left on then you can use a search engine like Google to do so. On my name and on two variants of my name (in quotes to prevent accidental word combinations) I got 9 pages of URLs total, more than a few of which are by folks who never bothered to ask permission (though most DID ask and got permission). Yes, this is a very real problem, as you can see from that number, and I am completely sure that number of URLs is NOT in the least an unusual one for anyone who has posted regularly. Name searching using Google is something I usually do for other's names because I find it one useful way to find new academic publications by people whose work I follow. Pubmed is also useful for that. BTW, those who have websites which link to my old resources page, please, change to link people to the MUCH BETTER resources list in the critical references links at http://www.ferretcongress.org . I wanted to take the links (many too old to be useful) off my old page which I was given and link folks there to the IFC page but between mis-recalling my password and having my old service provider go bankrupt (changed addy) I can't touch the danged thing. The IFC list is up to date and is more inclusive. Amy wrote: >##Or there was also the possibility that the dog came down with >distemper from the vaccine itself. > http://www.thedogplace.com/library/articles38.htm That's a point, but that was over 30 years ago and I have no idea if they used killed virus vaccines then or what. Today's vaccines like Purevax which are used for ferrets contain only small segments of the virus so that accidental infection is not possible from those segments. Interesting points on titers! Thanks for the read and the offer to provide more which I would appreciate. [Posted in FML issue 4119]