Well you can try my deaf site to start with. Its three pages of deaf ferret tips and fun. Connected onto it is a link to join an egroup for deaf ferrets. OH and pay attention ya'll.......... a secret page not linked onto my site: http://www.geocities.com/wolfysluv/deaf-light.html Wolfy ps, yah I know I know my site is behind, needs revamping, new links, new everything. sigh. Wolfy's deaf site moved to: http://wolfysluv.jacksnet.com/deaf.html [Posted in FML issue 4085]