The first place we lived with ferrets had this. We also had an ornamental metal supply place in that town so we picked a perforation design we liked, ordered the lengths at the right size, spray painted them, then attached then over the radiator as ornamental covers with wire. They looked gorgeous and radiated heat fine with no damage to the radiators, plus the ferrets could not get into the dangerous spots. The metal did heat up but the ferrets respected that and there was no problem with it. The ones you are looking at sound different from the type we had, though. Kat asks: >how do you explain being able to do this from across the miles... By having marvelous listening skills when the people talk. Have to respect that ability and recognize that people often say more than they recall saying, especially when nervous. Again, that's my take. I mean, we're talking about a faith issue, so people will vary in their choices on what to believe and that has to be respected (from BOTH sides). If it doesn't reduce medical care, or cause people to neglect good vet diagnoses or advice, and doesn't play into someone not looking carefully into health options in day to day living and in treatments then it's a difference in belief systems that doesn't hurt the ferrets. If it undermines those essentials for a given person's ferrets then it does hurt those ferrets and THAT is the potential danger for some. You *have* pursed vet care as is only right, so... Gabrielle wrote: >Further, the potential for people to misuse something is no reason for >the rest of us not to use it discuss it. For instance, I think it is >likely that people who rely solely on melatonin instead of lupron are >doing their ferrets a disservice, but it happens all the time, and I >don't say that we shouldn't discuss how to use melatonin. Well, I do have to point out an incredibly important way that this differs from a faith discussion. Melatonin IS BEING STUDIED in careful work by Dr. Jerry Murray and a some folks at Texas A&M. It may turn out that your opinion is right, it may turn out that your opinion is wrong, but people will KNOW because there will be hard data when this study is done. Hard data differs greatly from opinions and that is something that I have found that far too many people recognize. Some things are NOT just opinions, they have actual weight behind them. Those things which have solid data behind them need to be valued far more highly in health choices than hypotheses or opinions. (BTW, I recently learned from JM that the concept that IBD can lead to later lymphoma in a small percentage of ferrets is still just a hypothesis; boy was that a relaxing thing to learn. I know that some hypotheses pan out, but others don't, so I find that knowing one from the other helps a lot in dealing with the medical problems of ferrets, expectations, and worries. Since others and I have mentioned this here before maybe knowing this about IBD will also help someone else feel more relaxed.) [Posted in FML issue 4084]