I've noticed a couple requests for the phone numbers to the ferret shelters in Oregon (one by me, months ago), and I just wanted to point out they are in the phone book. I don't know where some of these requests were coming from, but the Multnomah, Washington, Clackamas county phone books have them both listed under animal shelters in the yellow pages. A good, general place for them to be. Especially when you cannot remember the name of them, a problem I have had on occasion... And, I ask about the excessive peeing, Linus my almost 8 year old medicated guy has been doing this lately, when I let him out of the cage we go into the bathroom and he goes there, usually pees. So then I let him out into the house, thinking he is "safe" (carpeted house) and he pees again, 5 to 10 minutes later. Both of them though look like decent-sized pee puddles in and of themselves. Now he did just have surgery, a little under 2 months ago, so if there was something wrong with his bladder (I mean, a possible enlarged bladder), I would think the vet would have seen that? He is not straining at all. He just goes, twice, it seems? He is on immuran, octagol, and just got put on the generic drug (I think) for proglycem. I noticed his excessive peeing since adding the generic proglycem, but I never read that as a side-effect... Minta, Linus & Ralphie [Posted in FML issue 4069]