Kris was not making a blanket statement about shelters and the way they operate. She remarked on one particular shelter, whose operator likes to publicize just about everything going on in her life. I know Kris supports several shelters, financially and emotionally, and is close to many operators. As a dedicated and loving ferret owner, she knows the struggle shelter ops face every day. She did not pull these accusations out of thin air. Go through the archives. Find out for yourself if she vaccinates and ADV tests like a responsible shelter op should. And ask yourself, if you were needing money for a shelter ferret of your own would you be playing Santa to another shelters' ferret? Regardless of how "generous" this may seem, it doesn't make much sense. My kudos to Kris for calling Kim out. And on a side note, I don't think Kris was out of line one bit in posting this. She was asking valid questions to someone who **publicly** posted about needing money. Amanda [Moderator's note: I think you'll find some strong supporters of Kim as you search the archives -- and some questions from others. As is usual, there are varying opinions and the topic is about to fizzle out. BIG] [Posted in FML issue 3988]