A few years ago I read an excellent idea for "brushing" your ferts. You know those mats that have something like really stiff hairs on them? Roll it up and fasten it together like a tube, and we all know what will happen from there! It is a bit messy, but nothing the vacuum won't clean up. Lisa Trickster (Stinky), Pepper, Mitsy and Pristine I wish I were a Teddy Bear - Everybody loves them! Nobody cares how fat the are! The older they get, the more they're worth! [Posted in FML issue 3983]