Yes, Kat, that is "sticking your neck out" on the chopping block so to speak. The Ferret Oracle is now trying to bang down the closet door as she sniffs "ferret nazis" about and is thirsting for blood. She feels an exorcism coming on (those that had dinner with the Oracle at the last Int. Ferret Symposium will remember what that looked like). I have resisted letting her out thus far to ward us all of these judgmental spirits. I love debates, and I think being overly PC is the next McCarthyism, but one needs to always keep an open mind to other ways of thinking at the same time. Sukie, you are correct, too many people are not taking time to understand the posts that they read and jump to conclusions so badly ... that sometimes things are twisted inside out until they no longer resemble their original words. Posters have a responsibility to be considerate, open minded, and civil. Readers have the same responsibilities! Wolfy Wolfy's site has MOVED to: http://wolfysluv.jacksnet.com/ [Posted in FML issue 3961]