Yeah they are very serious, Joanne, you are right. I know that the Oracle carries around a whole hand full of them at all times, and that Wolfy collects them for her. But one day, I just know I will not look at those things as ferrety goodluck charms. One day I"ll run into a death due to them, and I'll know I just might end up angrily thowing them into the trash. But they are good to keep for educating others and reminding yourself, that they are an ever present thing that you must prevent and even treat. Thanks for the reminder. I have no stories, thank goodness. I do have one ferret that hacks them up like a cat. He has never passed them through. He gets them all the time, no matter how much laxitone or vasiline I give him. Its an ever present problem with him. Very peculiar. I'm always scared I'm going to loose him to one. Wolfy Wolfy's site has MOVED to: http://wolfysluv.jacksnet.com/ [Posted in FML issue 3980]