I use a Krups electric grinder. I think I got it at Meier and Frank. I do not put raw bones through it, I cook the chicken in a pressure cooker first. (thanks for that suggestion Juliana). The electric grinder sure simplifies the whole process, and you don't end up with a huge bicep on your right arm;-) Pat Dweezil: "love my soup Mom, but I think I should have more" Dixie: "point me at my soup please, and keep that darn long haired ferret from eating mine too" Moxie,William,Kizzy and Katie: "don't you think we look a little pale Mom. Maybe we should have some soup on a regular basis too. Look, Moxie is fainting. Close your eyes Moxie and quit jumping up and down." [Posted in FML issue 3937]