Bob, I have long stated that I think (have observed) that groups (business's) of ferrets have pecking orders and act much like packs of wolves do. For an example, I have always noted that there is not just an obvious alpha, but a beta,,,,, and in my group, an obvious omega. I'm not the only one that has made this comparison on the FML over the years. Alicia D has experience with both species and wrote a paper on this a while back if I recall correctly, but it never got published as there was lack of interest at the time. I find ferret behavior, especially group behavior to be fascinating. Do you personally think that there are any similarities between the two (wolves and ferrets in groups)? Wolfy Please visit: http://www.geocities.com/wolfysluv/ for information on ferret deafness: http://www.geocities.com/wolfysluv/deaf.html [Posted in FML issue 3937]