Roger, I stand by my previous assertions, however you have an equally valid opinion which I've welcomed reading about. Now that we've both expressed our views, can we agree to either A) drop it or B) take our discussion off-list? I'll happily do either. Mr. Church, I have no doubt that your opinions are very highly regarded by ferret-folks. I know that I myself have a deep respect for the knowledge you have spent so many long hours to gain. You are in a unique position of regard within the ferret community and, having no basis for comparison, perhaps you can't understand that some people find you intimidating. This intimidation prevents them from sharing their own opinions and knowledge for fear of verbal retribution. Granted, that's not your problem and you are obviously under no obligation to set them at ease. However, a little tact would go a long way towards making everyone comfortable enough to participate in your informative threads. Thank you for listening, Joli [Posted in FML issue 3948]