::waving:: I'm from the day's of Meow Mix and Raisons, yes I am. I owned ferrets back in the seventies and eighties. We fed Meow Mix and gave them what ever they wanted for little treats.. including, yes the chocolate from my easter basket each year. I was nine years old and did'nt know better. I only had a book (and still do) from 1945 that said to keep them in a box outside and to give them milk and bread, etc,. I didnt' go by that book so much thank goodness. My ferrets through the years never got insolinoma, adrenal, or anything like that. Gosh I never even saw adrenal on a ferret until the late nineties myself. Never saw a deaf ferret before then also. Never heard of ECE, ADV... abc.... lol. It was not complete ignorance either. I knew of other ferret owners back in the day and we neve saw these things. I have old photos of my females that are as large as todays males, and are very hardy. I can't believe today, that the poor things lived on the cheapest of cat foods. I can't believe I waited for a year before I spayed my females (I waited until symptoms were bad before I did so). I can't beleive they lived in a huge aquarium that was in the dark, in my bathroom under a counter. The ferrets had free roam in the mornings then once again late in the day around dinner due to my scheduling. Funny, that darkness was actually good for them, and the timing of play was right on target also. I can't believe I didnt' have a liter pan for the little things, they went in the corner of their cages. I even used pine wood shavings for bedding. But I never ever.... went to the vets except to give them the dog shots, and then when they were old and had to be euthanized. Pretty interesting stuff. In the eighties I gave them a better home and a better diet. Still... there were no problems. I agree with Sukie, anecdotally.... I can tell you I experienced the exact same things as she. Wolfy Wolfy's site has MOVED to: http://wolfysluv.jacksnet.com/ [Posted in FML issue 3946]