There are resources which can help find vets. For instance, if you go to the shelter list in the FHL files, for instance, for Canada you will find not only shelters but the vets they use: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/ferrethealth/shelter.txt For constantly updated versions of that shelter list -- therefore even better -- write SEND SHELTER LISTS FERRET to <[log in to unmask]> These are each versions of the SOS list that Bill sends out for Judith, Ela, Georgia, and a fourth member of their group (Sorry, but I forget who is also working with them steadily.) so the one from the listserv addy is the one that arrives in the mailboxes of FML members, but with updates. and further vet listings can also be found in http://www.quincyweb.net/quincy/vet.html http://www.miamiferret.org/fhc http://www.thepetproject.com/starferrets.html http://www.ferretcentral.org http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/ferrethealth/FerretVets.htm For California try these established ferret organizations: http://www.ferretnews.org/clinic.html http://www.ferretsanonymous.com/medical.html In the Smartgroups Files section we'll be adding a File of compounding pharmacies in the near future. ---- Michelle, the insulinoma growths can at times be tiny -- sand-like. Our vets tend to have surgical microscopes handy and to also use feel to pop out the tiny ones. Sometimes the best approach is the remove a section of the pancreas. What can be done if you want to have a look see at a different testing aspect is to run blood insulin levels. [Posted in FML issue 3912]