Terry The post above yours in today's (Friday) FML should point you in the right direction for ADV info. As to sources of ferret goodies, can't help you with local stuff, being a couple thousand miles away, but I can highly recommend the Ferret Store as an internet source. Their prices are great, shipping is free, customer service is excellent, and they are long time supporters of the ferret community. http://www.theferretstore.com Welcome to the wonderful world of ferrets! Linda Iroff Oberlin OH [Posted in FML issue 3870]